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		<title>By: Chris Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Justin.  Although I would *like* to think that relationship is what matters, I have found that in my little slice of the world, it is not important to everyone.  Just as in personal relationships there are players and there are partners, not every agent is interested in a partnership.  I terminate them or don&#039;t engage with them to start with, if I can ID them early enough.  

I think agents have the same issue with insureds.  However, it is their prerogative to not engage with insureds that are players, right?  We can pick our market positioning and proceed from there.  I think many agents are afraid to say &quot;no&quot; to potential business, even if it means quoting for free and having a bad bind ratio.  They feel that if they turn this prospect away, there won&#039;t be another one right behind him, and they&#039;ll regret having passed up the opportunity.  But I think if they looked at their hit ratios and retentions with the partners versus the players, they would find that the players don&#039;t bring in significant sustainable income.  Theoretically, of course, as I&#039;m not a retailer.  I have found that to be the case in my own situation as a wholesaler.  

I didn&#039;t come to these conclusions wholly on my own.  I was lucky enough to interview a few years ago with a woman who asked me how I would define my ideal client (which made me think about it), and she also posited the theory that we, as wholesalers, cannot control what the markets will do, and cannot control what the insureds will do, but we sure can control who we pick to be our clients.  She felt that the key to success was partnering with the correct agents.  And she didn&#039;t pre-define them as being specialists, or national houses or anything like that.  Just promoted the idea that a given wholesaler should define their ideal client, and then go after that type of agent.  I&#039;ve been doing that ever since, and I have to say it has made a world of difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Justin.  Although I would *like* to think that relationship is what matters, I have found that in my little slice of the world, it is not important to everyone.  Just as in personal relationships there are players and there are partners, not every agent is interested in a partnership.  I terminate them or don&#8217;t engage with them to start with, if I can ID them early enough.  </p>
<p>I think agents have the same issue with insureds.  However, it is their prerogative to not engage with insureds that are players, right?  We can pick our market positioning and proceed from there.  I think many agents are afraid to say &#8220;no&#8221; to potential business, even if it means quoting for free and having a bad bind ratio.  They feel that if they turn this prospect away, there won&#8217;t be another one right behind him, and they&#8217;ll regret having passed up the opportunity.  But I think if they looked at their hit ratios and retentions with the partners versus the players, they would find that the players don&#8217;t bring in significant sustainable income.  Theoretically, of course, as I&#8217;m not a retailer.  I have found that to be the case in my own situation as a wholesaler.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t come to these conclusions wholly on my own.  I was lucky enough to interview a few years ago with a woman who asked me how I would define my ideal client (which made me think about it), and she also posited the theory that we, as wholesalers, cannot control what the markets will do, and cannot control what the insureds will do, but we sure can control who we pick to be our clients.  She felt that the key to success was partnering with the correct agents.  And she didn&#8217;t pre-define them as being specialists, or national houses or anything like that.  Just promoted the idea that a given wholesaler should define their ideal client, and then go after that type of agent.  I&#8217;ve been doing that ever since, and I have to say it has made a world of difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.pltidbits.com/2009/10/selling-on-price-stop-the-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Rick.  Thanks for the feedback.  I recall seeing your Report somewhere in my past.  I apologize for the lengthy delay in my reply.  Sometimes I fall off the face of the blog earth and forget to check my comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rick.  Thanks for the feedback.  I recall seeing your Report somewhere in my past.  I apologize for the lengthy delay in my reply.  Sometimes I fall off the face of the blog earth and forget to check my comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Betterley</title>
		<link>http://www.pltidbits.com/2009/10/selling-on-price-stop-the-insanity/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Betterley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris
My congrats on your blog; I have been checking the many insurance sites, looking for good ones that cover miscellaneous liability, and yours is one of the best.
Although i am not an agent or broker, I can see how your writing is useful to others (I publish The Betterley Report, blog at betterley.com/blog, and write about Cyber Risk, EPLI, Private Company Management Liability, and Side A D&amp;O, and Intellectual Property insurance).
Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris<br />
My congrats on your blog; I have been checking the many insurance sites, looking for good ones that cover miscellaneous liability, and yours is one of the best.<br />
Although i am not an agent or broker, I can see how your writing is useful to others (I publish The Betterley Report, blog at betterley.com/blog, and write about Cyber Risk, EPLI, Private Company Management Liability, and Side A D&amp;O, and Intellectual Property insurance).<br />
Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris, it is so obvious, isn&#039;t it, that we brokers need to stop this insanity, but it is hard to do sometimes. I appreciate the support to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris, it is so obvious, isn&#8217;t it, that we brokers need to stop this insanity, but it is hard to do sometimes. I appreciate the support to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting approach.  However, any sales person will tell you, relationship is what matters.  With little or no relationship, what&#039;s the best coverage going to do?  The other agent with a relationship will likely be able to provide that with a last look.  But as an underwiter, glad to hear coverage matters too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting approach.  However, any sales person will tell you, relationship is what matters.  With little or no relationship, what&#8217;s the best coverage going to do?  The other agent with a relationship will likely be able to provide that with a last look.  But as an underwiter, glad to hear coverage matters too!</p>
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